NSCA’s Coaching Podcast, Season 6 Episode 16: Mary Beth George

Learn about advocacy topics for collegiate strength and conditioning coaches, and the commitment of the NSCA to provide professional development resources in support of the field. This episode features Mary Beth George, the Chair of the NSCA College Coaches Professional Development Group (PDG). She shares her story in the profession with NSCA Coaching and Sport Science Manager, Eric McMahon, including key insights on the NSCA’s ongoing efforts to support athlete wellness and safety, and personal perspectives on being a strength and conditioning coach as a parent. Tune in for an early listen of areas that will be discussed at the College Coaches PDG Meeting next month as part of the 2023 Coaches Conference (Charlotte, NC, January 4-6).

Connect with Mary Beth via email at megeorge01@ysu.edu or on Instagram at mbgeorge2569| | Find Eric on Instagram: @ericmcmahoncscs and Twitter: @ericmcmahoncscs  
 
You can join the College Coaches PDG Council before the December 15th annual NSCA Volunteer Application deadline.

“I think the biggest thing that I've learned since being a part of this group has been that there is a whole network of people behind you, rooting for you to do well, and will support you-- whether it is that you're an assistant, just coming up, and it's your first full time position, or if you're someone like me trying to build a program, whatever it might be-- there are other people that have experienced something similar before and they can be a sounding board to help you succeed.” 11:07

“As we get accredited education programs, as we advance our professional communities, as we improve our research and all of our scientific areas, the way you're going to see that is by the students, and young coaches, and young professionals of today showing up at our conferences, and speaking, and being on committees.” 19:47

“When I got in the field, I didn't even think about having a family at the time. I was so devoted to this is my career, and this is what I want to do, and this is what I have to do to make my career work. But then when the kids came along, I had to adjust some of my own beliefs about the job.” 28:22

“Being able to be there and push the student athlete on the physical side, but then also being there to support them mentally. And being there, having an open ear, whatever it may be, just building that relationship with the student athlete to know that, hey, they can come to us and know that we're going to listen to them. And if we're not the right resource, we'll point them in the right direction to have whatever support they need.” 33:20

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[00:00:04.33] Welcome to the NSCA Coaching Podcast, Season Six, Episode 16.

[00:00:10.18] Being able to be there and push the student athlete on the physical side, but then also being there to support them mentally. And being there-- having an open ear, whatever it may be-- just building that relationship with the student athlete to know that, hey, they can come to us and know that we're going to listen to them. And if we're not the right resource, we'll point them in the right direction.

[00:00:37.93] This is the NSCA's Coaching Podcast where we talk to strength and conditioning coaches about what you really need to know, but probably didn't learn in school. There's strength and conditioning, and then there's everything else.

[00:00:48.83] Welcome to the NSCA Coaching Podcast. I'm Eric McMahon. Today we're joined by Mary Beth George, the chair of our College Coaches Professional Development Group and the new Assistant Athletic Director for Sport Performance at Youngstown State University in Ohio. Mary Beth, welcome.

[00:01:07.39] Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

[00:01:09.28] Yeah, we get to talk a lot, but we don't always do it in recorded format here. So really excited to have you on the podcast. I want to give you a chance to kick this thing off, and just tell us about your new role at Youngstown State.

[00:01:23.86] Sure. So I have a unique opportunity here at YSU. They brought me on as the Assistant Athletic Director for Sports Performance. And I oversee football, both men's and women's basketball, and then all the Olympic sports. Which is pretty-- for this University, it's a brand new position, which I'm really excited about.

[00:01:46.84] Before they just had a director of football, and he oversaw everyone. And so listening to their sport coaches, and some of the student athletes, and the feedback they have gotten over the years, they created this position. And I was lucky enough to make the cut, and come on board.

[00:02:07.96] So since I've been here-- I started in April-- and since I've been here, we've made some changes within the weight room, as far as equipment is concerned. We've made some unique changes with staffing. We've added two full-time positions, and then we have six graduate assistants, as well. So for a Division I school with 14 sports, we have 10 coaches altogether, which is pretty cool.

[00:02:39.61] That's awesome.

[00:02:40.72] Yeah, we have a great staff. And I'm just looking in the future to build this, and put Youngstown State on the map.

[00:02:50.05] So when I first started at the NSCA, you were at University of Pittsburgh. And that's where you're making the move from. And that's a program that has really put a lot of effort into advancing and growing that program over the years. Now, you're kicking things off for yourself at a University that didn't have as much of a developed department.

[00:03:14.37] I think this is something that's really interesting for coaches to hear. You talked about facility-- making sure that the facility was where you needed it to be-- and then staffing. What recommendations do you have for coaches that maybe find themselves in a new role, or a new leadership role, but maybe don't have all the resources yet that are needed?

[00:03:38.68] I think the biggest thing is being able to see the big picture, and so being able to advocate to administration your needs, and let them know where you envision the program. And I think that's been the biggest thing is having an idea of where you want to go. And understanding that you might not be there now, but if you keep your head down, and keep working, and keep advocating for everything that you have envisioned, you will get there.

[00:04:15.47] And you got to also understand, too, administration, and their vantage point, and point of view. You know, for some of these smaller schools they don't necessarily-- they've never experienced a lot of these things, whether it's working with technology and sports science, or having multiple staff members on the floor for student athletes. If you can make sure that the administration knows why you need those things, and why you want those things, then any good administration is going to work and help you get what you want and need.

[00:05:02.69] I think there's a lot there, and I love how constructive you are in delivering that. You deliver it in such a positive way, and I think that's the mentality you need to have in these scenarios because not every program is where it needs to be. And I think when you are interviewing, or you're in the hiring process and you're delivering your vision and in your mission to come in and make a difference, you need to meet them where they're at, in terms of what's happening on that campus.

[00:05:35.24] Right, and going into that you might have to think outside the box to be able to get some of those things that you do want and need. For example, I'm working with our exercise science department on campus. Previously there was no relationship with the academic side of things. And so when I first met with the chair of the exercise science department he said, in all my years that I've been here, we haven't met with a strength and conditioning coach.

[00:06:07.25] And so for me, we've been able to pull a good amount of interns from exercise science. So we've been able to have exercise science start VO2 maxing some of our student athletes. And so with that and just building that one little relationship, it's now started to cross over into some other portions of athletics.

[00:06:33.33] And to be completely honest, our University is in a unique situation and enrollment is down. And there are some academic programs that might be getting cut, or are getting some faculty that are being cut. And so with that, a lot of the academic side thinks that athletics is getting more money, and resources, and things like that. And so just to be able to bridge the gap between athletics and the academic side, it's helping the way that the academic side is perceiving athletics, as well.

[00:07:15.81] Yeah, that's really interesting.

[00:07:16.95] It's a bigger picture than just getting the things that we need for our department.

[00:07:23.43] You hear about turf wars between academics and athletics on college campuses. And I think the way you're bridging that gap, you're making that connection at a time when there's pressure to deliver at your University, right now. And that's really interesting to think about because, coming out of COVID-19 the last couple of years, there's, a lot of colleges and universities in that same boat. So it's pretty bold that they are taking the steps to add a department, add a position, add resources, and support the athletes.

[00:08:05.40] I think one thing that comes up often, and this will kind of bridge us to our next topic, is health and safety of athletes. Coming in as a new staff member, if you can make a point that what you're doing benefits those two areas, usually you're going to be well-served by that. And I bring that up because when we talk about the College Coaches Professional Development Group at the NSCA, lot of the topics that come up revolve around supporting health and safety for student athletes with strength and conditioning.

[00:08:42.67] And I think it's one of those things that, you know, there's that stigma in the field still where we are the weight room folks. I say folks because I normally would have said we're the weight room guys, but, you know, it's--

[00:08:57.02] [LAUGHTER]

[00:08:57.86] --it's-- we're getting better as a field. And we're breaking that mold a little bit, and being able to collaborate with sports medicine and other areas, like you're talking about, on campus to just show how broad and impactful our skill set can be. Wanted to give you a chance, Mary Beth, to talk about the professional development group-- what is that exactly for anyone who maybe hasn't heard about it-- and just some of the things we have going on.

[00:09:26.36] Sure, so the College Coaches Professional Development Group stemmed from the college coaches' SIG. So that special interest group, you know the NSCA really thought that they needed to get back to their roots, and give back to the college coach. And so one way to do that was by elevating us to a professional development group. And in that, we have a direct line to the board of directors.

[00:09:59.09] And I've been working with you, Eric, on submitting some recommendations to those board-- to the Board of Directors, in a broader scope, so more people kind of can understand a little bit. You know, we're really looking at trying to help the college coach advocate for themselves, essentially. The biggest thing that we've learned through our group, and talking with other coaches, has been that we don't necessarily have all the resources that we need to be able to go to administration, whether it's for salary wise, whether it's to promote our department, you know, little things like that.

[00:10:45.11] And so our professional development group is here to aid coaches with those resources and be a sounding board-- you know, with our Facebook group-- being able to shoot out a question, and have multiple, multiple people give you their point of view, and perspective, and how they might have handled the situation, whatever that may be.

[00:11:07.85] So I think the biggest thing that I've learned since being a part of this group has been that there is a whole network of people behind you, rooting for you to do well, and will support you-- whether it is that you're an assistant, just coming up, and it's your first full time position, or if you're someone like me trying to build a program, whatever it might be-- there are other people that have experienced something similar before and they can be a sounding board to help you succeed.

[00:11:43.05] You mentioned advocacy, and that's, I think, probably the biggest theme that's come from our conversations around collegiate strength and conditioning. When we look at the field, I remember when I got in I ended up going the professional baseball route. But I think when I first looked at strength and conditioning as a career path, collegiate strength and conditioning was really the most established route that was available for me to learn about.

[00:12:10.29] So these roles have been around for a while. There's obviously more opportunities now than there were years ago. But the role of advocacy within collegiate athletic departments, I want to unpack that a little bit. What is advocacy? What's needed? And where is this group going to take us?

[00:12:31.41] So it's-- advocacy within strength conditioning. Collegiate strength and conditioning to be specific, is being able to advocate for yourself, whether that's trying to get a better salary, whether that's trying to get more GAs or full-time positions in your department. I think, a lot of times, we as strength coaches as we're coming up, we're taught about the programming, and we're taught about how to connect with student athletes, but we're not always taught how to connect with administration.

[00:13:10.77] And we don't necessarily always sit-in on meetings with the Athletic Director, or meetings with the Executive Athletic Director. And so how do we go to them and say, hey, here's what we need to be better for our student athletes, and highlight the health and wellness of our student athletes, and make sure that we are providing a safe atmosphere for student athletes to train, and become better athletes?

[00:13:39.70] So with our professional development group, and our counsel within the professional development group, we've been able to brainstorm. We even had a collegiate coaches' working group-- that was put together by you, Eric-- and we came up with ideas of having some pre-written justification letters and job description templates. If you are in my position, and you are able to add a full-time position, you know, what does that job description look like to broaden, and find some of the best candidates, for that position.

[00:14:22.42] Yeah, I think back early in my career, I didn't know a lot of strength and conditioning coaches, you know. And looking back on that, what was meaningful? It was reading coaches bios that I could find, and finding job descriptions that I wasn't ready for yet. And so that is something that, when I look at the role of the NSCA in this, how we can support colleges and universities, it's really around resources, and professional development resources. But that's not always going to be related to content that's on the CSCS.

[00:14:55.60] So as we look at this, I really like some of the ideas that came up from that group. You know we talked about, on the health and safety side, you might have to justify a new position on your staff. So building sort of a strength and conditioning or weight room calculator tool that would allow you to determine how much square footage you would need in a new facility, or equipment layout, based on NSCA recommendations. Another cool one was how many staff would be required based on largest team size that you would have in the weight room, given all the camp-- on campus factors and other things.

[00:15:37.98] Right, right, that was actually one of the coolest ideas, I think. You know, to be able to pull up your phone, and just type in how many student athletes you have, and the square footage like you said, and then an algorithm do the work for you. You know, that's-- to have something at our fingertips as coaches will help immensely. And again, it goes back to the safety and wellness of our student athletes. And if we can have that, then I think the field starts to change a little bit.

[00:16:10.27] Yeah, I think from the NSCA perspective, the best thing we can do is just maintain the fact that we have high standards for health and safety, and athletic performance of our athletes. And if-- and really, the mission at the NSCA hasn't changed. We're always having to go back to just conveying and communicating what those standards are for the field. And so when I think about it, it's really no different than what we've always done.

[00:16:41.49] We're just repackaging some of the key messages in a way that optimizes the delivery of this information for the college coaching community. I think it's cool. One thing we're talking about with the professional development group, so from a special interest group to a PDG, we have now added positions. So right now, the volunteer application period is open, and people are applying for these roles. Talk about what you're looking for in expanding your council.

[00:17:19.08] Yep, we're definitely looking to expand in a couple of ways. We would like to add more members to our council, because the more voices we have, and the more people we have to bounce ideas off of, I think this group will get stronger. And in the people that we're looking for, we are looking to bring on some coaches who have experience in other-- or governance, such as NAIA instead of just the NCAA.

[00:17:54.55] We have a lot of coaches who belong to member institutions from the NCAA, but looking to expand into, like I said, NAIA, JUCO, some of those other divisions that you might not hear a lot about, because we are trying to serve all college coaches, not just those within the NCAA. So anyone who's interested that might be a member of one of those institutions, we encourage you to apply.

[00:18:24.35] And then, the same would be with a younger strength coach, who might be a paid fellow, or a paid intern, or in their first full-time position. We really want to have a multitude of voices from different backgrounds, and a multitude of voices who have different experiences. And a coach who's just starting out now-- in a different era than when I might have started, or some of our other council members might have started-- I think it gives us a little idea of what those coaches are looking, for instead of just feeding into one era of coach

[00:19:15.48] Yeah, totally the strength and conditioning students and young coaches of today-- we're talking about your role on the professional development group. That's a volunteer leadership position within the NSCA. But as we develop programs, and initiatives, and get these aspiring coaches involved, they're our leaders in the future.

[00:19:41.54] And that's something that I think is a huge message for the NSCA going forward is that, as we get accredited education programs, as we advance our professional communities, as we improve our research and all of our scientific areas, the way you're going to see that is by the students, and young coaches, and young professionals of today showing up at our conferences, and speaking, and being on committees.

[00:20:12.97] There's someone in college right now that is considering this profession that's going to be on our Board of Directors one day. It's going to lead this organization forward. And we have a role on the Board of Directors that's dedicated to institutional collegiate strength and conditioning. And that is something that I think gets overlooked, at times. I think there's a perception that in this space, because of the scholarship and all the other factors, that there's a huge academic push within strength and conditioning.

[00:20:51.28] But this podcast is proof that the voice of the coach shines through, and that the NSCA serves to support the coaching community. The coaching community is broad, a lot broader than it was in 1978, for sure. And that's, I think, where some of these initiatives and goals are taking us is that the more people we have, the more voices, like you mentioned, the more consensus, and the more guidance, and direction, we can have to lead us going forward.

[00:21:24.87] So I'm really excited about the professional development groups. I think what we've talked about in Approach of Coaches Conference is actually having some meetings that both of our national-- our big national events. So talk about that a little bit, the-- you know, how we have meetings at our national conferences, maybe a little plug for some people to show up.

[00:21:50.09] Yeah, so both at the National Conference, and then the Coaches Conference coming up here in January, we usually hold a professional development group meeting. And in that meeting, we usually try to review what we've talked about in the time since our last meeting as a group, whether that's from our Facebook group, or whether that's just from reports from our council meetings, things like that.

[00:22:18.06] But then, we use those meetings to try to provide annual updates-- whether that's from our institutions and what some rules might be looking at from the NCAA, or as we move forward and try to get some NAIA and JUCO coaches in-- but what might be some issues that are current issues that are facing their strength and conditioning departments.

[00:22:49.31] And then we use those meetings, also, to try to discuss as a group, you know, how to better, like you said, ourselves, and how can we utilize this group to help each other. So whether that's working through some of those issues and what we might be seeing on our own campuses, or what we want to see in the future from this group.

[00:23:18.57] So lately, the conversations that happen in the college space, I think, get so steered by really our-- maybe our biases or perceptions coming in. I went to a small D3 college, so it-- I always tell this story. It's funny to me. The professor I had would talk about how professional sports were all about winning, and collegiate sports are all about development.

[00:23:48.89] And then when I got into professional sports, they were telling me the exact opposite. So I think one-- what that brings me to is that, when we come together in these conversations, you know, I don't know as much as you know about your athletic conference, or the NCAA policies as administered by your Compliance Officers. Those are really good conversations.

[00:24:14.09] And I think there's something there that we can do better beyond saying, hey, we're the NSCA college coaching SIG, and we're just going to talk about what the NSCA is doing. We want to actually share what's happening out in the field, and bring that back so that we at the NSCA, on the staff, so we can report that to our Board of Directors, so that we can put in programs to actually serve the current needs in the field. So this professional development group push really supports that.

[00:24:46.90] I really like the focus on-- especially now, as we talk about in collegiate sports with the strength and conditioning coach qualifications-- just the sharing of information around regulatory and administrative topics, issues that come up, because those are things that we don't learn in strength coach school. We need to expand ourselves that way. Mary Beth, here's one. We talk about this off the record a lot.

[00:25:20.12] Yeah.

[00:25:20.78] You and I are both parents in the profession. This is a topic-- you know, a group of us were hanging out at a conference earlier this year and it came up, hey, why don't we have a session for parents at one of our conferences. You know, talk about being a parent in the profession. Share a little bit about your perspective on that. How have you made it work? I won't go into my crazy stories of four kids in professional baseball and all that, but I want you to tell your story.

[00:25:53.90] Sure, so I have two kids-- married and have two kids. One is one and half, and the other one is five years old. So Daniel is my oldest. The only thing he knows is strength conditioning. He loves the weight room, just like probably all the other strength coaches out there who have kids. You know, grown up in it, and will come to a football lift and think he's one of the guys, right? So I think having a family in the profession is very unique.

[00:26:32.71] In our profession, we talk about work life balance, and does that even exist. I would not be able to be in this profession without my husband. He has been a huge support factor with our family. And you know, I just got back from being on the road with our women's soccer team. You know, I was gone from Wednesday to early Sunday morning. You know, 2:00 AM we got back.

[00:26:59.36] So trying to figure out, how do I devote enough time to my family, and make sure that my family knows I care for them, I love them, I want them to do well, but then also put the time and effort into my career? And as a new coach at this University and trying to get a department off the ground, you know, that does take a lot of time. That does take a lot of effort.

[00:27:34.93] Talking with other coaches who have kids and families, it can be done. But there's a lot of coaches out there who-- you know, it's not always talked about, right? And so like you said, bringing it to the forefront. And as we were all kind of talking we were saying, hey, how is your family? What are some things that are going on with your family? I think we all genuinely care about each other, but then getting down to the nuts and bolts of how do we make it work.

[00:28:10.24] You know, I think it would be really cool as we move forward, even in this professional development group, is to have some sessions of career planning for some of our younger coaches who get in. When I got in the field, I didn't even think about having a family at the time. I was so devoted to this is my career, and this is what I want to do, and this is what I have to do to make my career work. But then when the kids came along, I had to adjust some of my own beliefs about the job.

[00:28:43.43] You know, I used to think that I had to be at the-- you know, be behind my desk from 6:00 AM to 6:00 PM. And now, you know, hey, as long as I'm in, and I'm showing my student athletes that I care about them, and I'm getting my work done, and administration knows that I'm doing my job, and I care about what I do, as long as those boxes are checked, I can go home. Or for Halloween, I was able to leave in the middle of the day to go see my son in his Halloween parade, and then get back here for the next group. So being able to do little things like that, I think you're able to find the value in both family and job.

[00:29:31.47] That's awesome Yeah, I was going to ask, did you have time to put a costume on for the Halloween parade, but--

[00:29:37.35] Unfortunately not, but maybe next year.

[00:29:40.63] Maybe with a hustle.

[00:29:41.01] Maybe next year. I'll come more prepared.

[00:29:42.93] You know, I think it is so cool when-- you know, we're in a profession that we love, right? We wouldn't pursue this path, and some of the challenges that go with it, if we didn't. And sometimes we put the blinders on. And I think early in your career, you sort of have to do that, right? You have to put your career in the forefront, wherever that's going to take you. And in coaching, it can take you a lot of different places.

[00:30:08.52] Right.

[00:30:09.00] I do remember in college that actually, you know, I was deciding what I wanted to do with my life. You know, like we all do, right? And I just remember thinking, you know, I probably am going to want to have a family one day. What does it look like to have a job like this? And running it through that filter, at first, causes a little bit of stress and anxiety when you're looking at, well, probably any profession. Sometimes I think we can say strength and conditioning is a lot different than others, but in reality, all professionals have to do that.

[00:30:47.54] For sure.

[00:30:48.29] You take a leap towards a profession that you don't really fully understand yet when you're 21, 22 years old. Or some careers, you have to even decide before that. But here's one for you, Mary Beth.

[00:31:03.78] Yep.

[00:31:04.62] Your perspective as a mom, you know, what is something that-- a perspective gained from being a parent that has just added value to you as a coach?

[00:31:18.21] For me, it is understanding that the student athletes I work with have a mom and dad just like my kids have mom and dad, right? Like a lot of times when you first enter this profession, you look at them just as a student athlete. And so now, once I've had kids, I look at a student athlete as a son or daughter, and that I'm potentially the babysitter. I don't want to say that, but I'm taking care of someone's child for an X amount of time, and so the health and safety of that student athlete comes first.

[00:32:00.23] And I think it just puts a different perspective as to what does that health and safety mean, right? Because if I were to send my kid out, I would want my kid to be taken care of just as well, and to know that they are safe, and they're in an environment that they are pushed to their maximum potential, but then also that they're given some praise every once in a while and they're being able to have a great mental space, whatever that might be.

[00:32:35.74] And so I think for me as a mom, I've had a lot of different experiences just within the five and a half years that I have been a mom, especially since my son has had a kidney transplant, and has had some health issues. So knowing that, there are other people who have had hardships and have gone through things, you're able to look at each individual just as that, an individual, and that not all student athletes are the same.

[00:33:12.82] You know, someone might have had gone through some stuff, or mom and dad might be going through something, grandma and grandpa might be going through something. So being able to be there and push the student athlete on the physical side, but then also being there to support them mentally. And being there, having an open ear, whatever it may be, just building that relationship with the student athlete to know that, hey, they can come to us and know that we're going to listen to them. And if we're not the right resource, we'll point them in the right direction to have whatever support they need.

[00:33:57.33] It's a powerful perspective, there. If you are a GA, coach, out there in the field right now, learning your dynamic with the teams and athletes you work with. Maybe you're having to drive the van on road trips. I know I had to do that in my first coaching gig. And just know that those students in the car with you, that that's someone's baby, that's someone's child.

[00:34:29.66] Right.

[00:34:30.92] You may not come up with that perspective for yourself, but if you're hearing this now from two parents here on the episode, that is-- our kids are young, and we're not there. We have kids in college yet. But I know 10 years from now when my son is in his 20s, and who knows what he's doing in college, I'm going to still really be involved in his life, and really want to know he's in good hands with the people that he's with.

[00:35:05.23] So I think that's a really powerful perspective for our young coaches, young professionals in the field. There's so many parallels between parenting and coaching that can be unpacked. There's a huge-- there's a number of sessions that could come from that at conferences, maybe a roundtable or a panel discussion, something that will come up. I think we'll revisit this in the future. But Mary Beth, this has been fun. Thanks for being with us.

[00:35:29.38] No problem. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. It's been great.

[00:35:32.67] So anyone wants to reach out, what's the best way to do that?

[00:35:37.12] Best way is through email. My information is on the YSU Sports website. But email is, megeorge01@ysu.edu. So email is the best way. If you want to, I think two plugs I have got is, one, if you want to be a part of our professional development group council, applications are open. Please, please, please, submit an application. We'd love to broaden our group. But then also, if you're going to the College Coaches Conference, please come to our meeting. We'd love to have you there, and hear your voice.

[00:36:20.47] Awesome. Thanks again for being with us. To everyone listening in, we appreciate you being here. And also, a special thanks to Sorinex Exercise Equipment. We appreciate their support.

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